tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7424337262078805962.post7254663818685220151..comments2023-07-08T14:42:03.109+01:00Comments on Soccerphile Blog: Fiorentina v Liverpool – Dr. Joel RookwoodUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7424337262078805962.post-83943803650973211172009-11-11T17:59:28.819+00:002009-11-11T17:59:28.819+00:00Alessando prento atto delle tue parole che ti fann...Alessando prento atto delle tue parole che ti fanno onore.. detto questo.. noi prendemmo le distanze dai cocomeri che 24 anni fa festeggiarono.. detto questo .. voi tre giorni dopo la tragedia (tutta la curva ) avete esposto uno striscione vergognoso..gli unici all'epoca a farlo.. tant'e' che faceste una figura infame agli occhi di tutti.. e da allora, ogni anno e' cosi'.. Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07819257290578141212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7424337262078805962.post-69020105260732430452009-11-11T17:20:30.093+00:002009-11-11T17:20:30.093+00:00Alessandro,
Thanks for taking the time to respond ...Alessandro,<br />Thanks for taking the time to respond and reflect on the Juve perspective. Genuine channels of communication are so rarely opened between our clubs outside those who operate in official capacities. When I respond here I do so not just to you and the Bianconeri but to Fiorentina as well. I cannot claim to represent all of Liverpool. Many Scousers would subscribe to my view but theJoel Rookwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01104395372724872302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7424337262078805962.post-49219773888886461582009-11-11T13:27:12.801+00:002009-11-11T13:27:12.801+00:00beh...se la premessa è questa...inutile continuare...beh...se la premessa è questa...inutile continuare...non vedo cosa ci sia di strumentale nel gemellaggio quando sei sicura che comunque vi abbiamo sempre insultato i morti...anche prima dle gemellaggio...non ci odi e nemmeno ci rispetti...io poi che posso dire...io posso scusarmi per i vili che hanno scritto, urlato e stampato porcherie come quelle che giustamente hai rilevato...ma chi sono io daAlessandrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06485718947831198813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7424337262078805962.post-41827193549261971082009-11-11T11:30:00.347+00:002009-11-11T11:30:00.347+00:00SECOND PART:
At the same time it is also very tr...SECOND PART: <br /><br />At the same time it is also very true that younger Liverpool fans have always seen the Heysel tragedy as a huge soft spot, something to be really ashamed for and even feeling guilty for something they have not commited. And it's also very true that during recent years it was them who actually did more than anybody else to remember the victims and show them the due Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07819257290578141212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7424337262078805962.post-80440045022341748782009-11-11T11:25:55.265+00:002009-11-11T11:25:55.265+00:00FIRST PART:
PUBBLIC LETTER TO LIVERPOOL FANS
He...FIRST PART: <br /><br />PUBBLIC LETTER TO LIVERPOOL FANS<br /><br />Hello, I'm writing to you on behalf of thousands of Juve fans; this is the first time we contact you after 24 years. Distance between us remains massive since we never talked after the Heysel tragedy despite more than 24 years have now gone by. Maybe without this perverse "twinning" we'd have not contacted you Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07819257290578141212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7424337262078805962.post-3982541616831401352009-11-11T11:25:14.583+00:002009-11-11T11:25:14.583+00:00Hi,
yesterday i had send a PUBBLIC LETTER TO LIVE...Hi, <br />yesterday i had send a PUBBLIC LETTER TO LIVERPOOL FANS. <br />There was a little error... and I forgot to sign the letter. <br />There was a site with 35.000 juventus fans.. another forum with 1000 juventus fans and ultras, The Group by FB with 2000 juventus fans and ultras. <br />Thank you very much if you want to publish the letter<br />is the first time that so many Juventus fans, Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07819257290578141212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7424337262078805962.post-67901794941546330672009-11-10T16:05:13.192+00:002009-11-10T16:05:13.192+00:00I lay it up here, a link about Facebook group in e...I lay it up here, a link about Facebook group in english, where everyone can read a our statement, that we will run in various forums and sites of Liverpool fans. <br />Thanks again for the opportunity for dialogue, despite 24 years of silence between us and you, and unfortunately, the anger that still divides us.<br />Thanks. <br />Annamaria <br />***<br /><br />39 angels want peace and respect.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07819257290578141212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7424337262078805962.post-71312424665969534412009-11-10T15:48:58.575+00:002009-11-10T15:48:58.575+00:00Alessandro.. se a torino non c'eri non puoi gi...Alessandro.. se a torino non c'eri non puoi giudicare.. a maggior ragione dovresti ascoltare chi c'era. <br />Comunque.. per quanto mi riguarda parlano i fatti.. Sono arrabbiata, e' vero.. perche' dopo 24 anni vedere quella maglia infame con scritto meno 39 esposta da piu persone.. vedere gente come il ragazzino del video insultare i nostri morti.. credimi.. toglie tutti i buoni Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07819257290578141212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7424337262078805962.post-64099717924646176302009-11-10T11:40:49.356+00:002009-11-10T11:40:49.356+00:00Annamaria rileggendo meglio il tuo post noto ranco...Annamaria rileggendo meglio il tuo post noto rancore, astio e rabbia che comprendo visto quello che è successo. Io dal mio punto di vista non mi vergogno di niente e dell'opinione delle altre tifoserie moralizzatrici e NON infami che dici ci aspettano al varco sinceramente mi interessa il giusto. Ti ripeto che non ero a Torino e l'idiota che bestemmia e dice stupidaggini dle genere forse Alessandrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06485718947831198813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7424337262078805962.post-59314268803675270952009-11-10T11:29:32.574+00:002009-11-10T11:29:32.574+00:00sorry for speaking italian...Annamaria io l'on...sorry for speaking italian...Annamaria io l'onestà intellettuale ce l'ho...io ti assicuro che a Firenze tanta gente simpatizzava Liverpool molto prima della tragica notte dell'Heysel...e comunque è assurdo che ve la prendiate più con noi che con loro...noi le nostre porcherie le abbiam sempre pagate. Io non ho mai cantato canzoncine ignobili nè esposto strisiconi deprecabili...anche Alessandrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06485718947831198813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7424337262078805962.post-46961480378366339032009-11-09T19:32:19.212+00:002009-11-09T19:32:19.212+00:00My name's Guido, i was a Juve ultras at Heysel...My name's Guido, i was a Juve ultras at Heysel's times.<br />I'd like to state in advance that what I'm going to write here is only my personal point of view, I don't represent no group or everybody else than myself.<br /><br />In his last post, Alessandro says that he never abused the 39 Heysel victmins' memory, and also that idiots are everywere; well, I could also trustUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05237980191113956723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7424337262078805962.post-43607757693744934462009-11-09T12:03:21.672+00:002009-11-09T12:03:21.672+00:00Dear Joel,
I'm sorry but facts are facts. Ma...Dear Joel, <br /><br />I'm sorry but facts are facts. Many of us have appreciated your blog for the brutal honesty. But this does not change the fact that you will have a beer together, but we are coming with your shirt that said, less 39 with 2,000 people singing songs and showing how GRAZIE LIVERPOOL your scarves. Explain to me what was it, sing a chorus in Turin that? you know better than Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07819257290578141212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7424337262078805962.post-56437962874468400352009-11-09T11:14:45.862+00:002009-11-09T11:14:45.862+00:00Forget the link about video match JUVENTUS FIORENT...Forget the link about video match JUVENTUS FIORENTINA. <br />http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1169482029577&oid=149934650635Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07819257290578141212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7424337262078805962.post-59984621298200028252009-11-09T11:13:22.835+00:002009-11-09T11:13:22.835+00:00Alessandro, io dico che cercare di coprire e giust...Alessandro, io dico che cercare di coprire e giustificare quanto successo a torino, negando l'innegabile, solo perche' 24 anni fa, qualche nostro tifosi imbecille ha fatto cortei per una vittoria sporca di sangue.. <br />(tra l'altro la stragrande maggioranza del nostro tifo ha preso le distanze all'epoca da quella gente che fu da noi isolata, non e' corretto ed e' troppo Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07819257290578141212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7424337262078805962.post-3946936833829642132009-11-09T10:47:54.176+00:002009-11-09T10:47:54.176+00:00I hope that my original article made our position ...I hope that my original article made our position clear - we should not entertain an invitation of friendship from any club that is based on a celebration of disaster. We have had our own tragedies in this country, particularly Hillsborough where we lost 96 of our own - the worst disaster European football will ever see. <br /><br />That said, any Viola fan who respects the legacy of The Kop is Joel Rookwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01104395372724872302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7424337262078805962.post-20189090413548372102009-11-09T08:00:14.194+00:002009-11-09T08:00:14.194+00:00Cara Annamaria,
il sottoscritto non ha mai cantato...Cara Annamaria,<br />il sottoscritto non ha mai cantato contro di voi inneggiando all'Heysel, non ha mai insultato la memoria di nessuno...mi spiace che l'abbiate presa male, forse era comprensibile ma io che ho frequentato per anni il nostro stadio so bene cosa anima la mia tifoseria...gli imbecilli si trovano ovunque, anche tra chi inneggia Superga, alla morte di Baretti, a Sheffield e Alessandrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06485718947831198813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7424337262078805962.post-9569880626284994212009-11-08T18:23:56.809+00:002009-11-08T18:23:56.809+00:00I'm a Juventus female fan.
I'm not thrill...I'm a Juventus female fan. <br />I'm not thrilled at the idea of writing you, because Because I was at Heysel and still feel angry after 24 years, still what the viola fans did is more important than my personal feelings.<br />I speak on behalf of thousands of people, the ones that joined the Facebook group http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=149934650635&ref=mf I created against Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07819257290578141212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7424337262078805962.post-67292080483991641062009-10-05T11:19:34.169+01:002009-10-05T11:19:34.169+01:00thanks Joel...forgive me for my very bad english b...thanks Joel...forgive me for my very bad english but I forgot a lot of words, gramatic and expression I was used to know in the past...thanks for your kind reply...what I'd mean was that we too we have a lot of us who weren't good...in the past the hools culture had a lot of fans...even in Florence. Likely Brussels is the past, even if anybody is able to give back to their family the Alessandrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06485718947831198813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7424337262078805962.post-11606934245706138392009-10-05T10:04:16.880+01:002009-10-05T10:04:16.880+01:00Alessandro,
I guess the problem with forming an op...Alessandro,<br />I guess the problem with forming an opinion on such a short trip is that you may misrepresent the majority by reflecting on the minority. I am sorry if this has been the case. I could only comment on what I saw and the conversations I had. You are in a better position to comment on what your general fanbase thinks and I respect that and apperciate you taking the time to let me Joel Rookwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01104395372724872302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7424337262078805962.post-35828370345772295512009-10-03T10:51:26.926+01:002009-10-03T10:51:26.926+01:00sorry my friend ...I'm not according with your...sorry my friend ...I'm not according with your position..Liverpool legend it's for us other thing that Heysel tragedy...sorry...it's not true..I don't know with whom you discussed after the match...but we admirate the Kop's legend and we respect one of the most important winner in football history...to minimaze us as simple littles uglies friends of hools mentality and Alessandrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06485718947831198813noreply@blogger.com